[2.00 27-0053 Discuss, consider and/or take action regarding Auditor and Financial Matters including Budget Adjustments, Transfers, and Amendments.]

THANK YOU. ITEM TWO IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION REGARDING THE AUDITOR AND FINANCIAL MATTERS, INCLUDING BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, TRANSFERS AND AMENDMENTS. MISS SCOTT, GOOD MORNING. THIS MORNING WE HAVE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS TO AMOUNT OF $65,500 AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $410,000 AND ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. SO MOVED. SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, TRANSFERS AND AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[3.00 27-0054 Discuss, consider and/or take action to Authorize Payment of Claims: General Accounts (Pooled Cash).]

ITEM THREE DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION. AUTHORIZE PAYMENTS OF CLAIMS UNDER GENERAL ACCOUNTS. MISS SCOTT AND THIS MORNING WE HAVE CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,565,120.03 AND ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO PAY THEM TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAW TO AUTHORIZE PAYMENTS OF CLAIMS AS PRESENTED BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

[CONSENT AGENDA (ITEMS 4- 9)]

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE ARE UNDER OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE AN ITEM THE COMMISSIONER WISHES TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE AS PRESENTED. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALBY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION

[10.00 27-0072 Discuss, consider and/or take action regarding the event “Pancho Clos is Coming to Town” request pursuant to Section 74.601 et se q. of the Texas Property Code. The funds, as defined in the Texas Local Government Code Section 381.004, will be used to promote economic development.]

CARRIES. ITEM TEN IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION REGARDING THE EVENT. PONCHO CLAUS COMES TO TOWN REQUEST PURSUANT TO SECTION 74.601 OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE. THE FUNDS, AS DEFINED IN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 381.004, WILL BE USED TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. GOOD MORNING MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. IF YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THANK YOU. YES, MY NAME IS SENAIDA REYES. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF FIESTAS DE LLANO.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS JUDGE, FOR HAVING ME HERE. BUNCH OF CLAUS IS THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE IN DECEMBER. IT IS SANTA CLAUS COUSIN FROM THE SOUTH. AND WE HAVE FAMILIES COME AND GET A TOY AND GET A BAG OF FRUIT. AND THAT IS ALSO A COMMUNITY. ORGANIZATIONS HAVE

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HOT CHOCOLATE. THEY HAVE A PINATA AREA AND WE HAVE PRIZES FOR BIG PRIZES FOR FAMILIES TO HAVE AS A WHOLE. IT'S A BIG EVENT. LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 1200 PEOPLE. WE'RE ASKING FOR FUNDS TO HELP WITH THE EVENT ITSELF. WE HAVE IT AT ROGERS PARK IN THE ROGERS GYM IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT THIS YEAR. IT'S ON DECEMBER 5TH, DECEMBER 5TH, AND IT'S CHANGED LOCATIONS THIS YEAR TO. YES, WE HAD TO MOVE IT FROM MAGGIE, THE WHOLE CENTER TO ROGERS GYM. I WAS GOING TO SAY I WON A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND TOOK MY LITTLE ONE AND MAGGIE TREJO AND THE TURNOUT WAS WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE. YES. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT JUDGE, I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE $1,000 TO THE. CLAUS SECOND EVENT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHAW, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATTLER, TO FUND $1,000 OUT OF OUR UNCLAIMED FUNDS TO FIESTAS DEL LLANO, INCORPORATED FOR THE PANCHO CLAUS ANNUAL EVENT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU, MISS REYES. ITEM 11 IS A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON

[11.00 27-0066 Presentation and discussion on behalf of Ronnie Keister, Tax Assessor-Collector, regarding the Venue and Short-Term Rental Tax Collections for September 2026.]

BEHALF OF RONNIE KEISTER, OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, REGARDING THE VENUE AND SHORT TERM RENTAL TAX COLLECTIONS FOR SEPTEMBER OF 2026. SANCHEZ. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MISS SANCHEZ WITH THE COUNTY TAX OFFICE REPORTING PHOTOS COLLECTED IN OCTOBER. HOTEL $309,500.37. PAID 173. CAR $88,522.51. PAID NINE BRINGS A TOTAL OF $398,022.88. TOTAL PAID 182. PHOTOS COLLECTED FOR OTHER REPORTING PERIODS. HOTEL $9,136.68. PAID SIX. CAR ZERO, TOTALING $9,136.68. TOTALS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. HOTEL $3,101,923.92. PENALTIES TOTALING $5,273.54. CAR $1,015,245.10. PENALTIES TOTALING $50.16 BRINGS A TOTAL OF $4,122,492.72. MONTHLY AND FISCAL YEAR COMPARISON. SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR $323,385.29. SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR $398,022.88. MONTHLY TOTAL, UP 23% LAST FISCAL YEAR $3,657,570.73. THIS FISCAL YEAR $4,122,492.72. YEARLY TOTAL UP 13%. IN CONCLUSION. TOTAL DEPOSITED INTO VENUE BANK ACCOUNT THROUGH OCTOBER 30TH. $26,970,973.91. TOTAL DISBURSEMENTS AS OF OCTOBER 30TH $7,910,640.62. BALANCE AS OF OCTOBER 30TH $19,060,333.29.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SANCHEZ? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ITEM 12 IS TO

[12.00 27-0056 Discuss, consider and/or take action to approve the sale of Lubbock County’s surplus or salvage property through an online auction per Local Government Code §263.152(a)(1).]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SALE OF LUBBOCK COUNTY SURPLUS OR SALVAGED PROPERTY THROUGH AN ONLINE AUCTION PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. 263.152 A ONE.

GOOD MORNING. PURCHASING. YEAH. THESE ARE ITEMS READY FOR SALE THROUGH THAT PUBLIC AUCTION.

AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALBY TO APPROVE THE SALE OF LUBBOCK COUNTY SURPLUS OR SALVAGED PROPERTY. I KNOW SOME THERE'S A REALLY NICE CARTIER WATCH IN THERE. DID YOU SEE THAT? NO. OH, IT'S REALLY NICE. IT'S A REALLY, REALLY NICE WATCH TO GET THE APPRAISAL. IT WAS. I GUESS IT WAS SEIZED.

IT WAS CORRECT. WATCH HAD A BROKE. OH, NO. THIS ONE ISN'T BROKE. THIS ONE'S GOT LIKE 23 CARATS OF DIAMONDS AROUND IT AND STUFF. IT'S REALLY GOOD ON YOU. YEAH. I DON'T EVEN WEAR A WATCH. IT'LL LOOK GOOD ON YOU. OH, USE THAT WHILE YOU'RE OUT PLOWING. NEXT. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT'S TOO. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALBY TO APPROVE THE SALE OF LUBBOCK COUNTY SURPLUS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.

[13.00 27-0059 Discuss, consider and/or take action to authorize the County Judge to sign a Volume Licensing Agreement with Microsoft.]

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GORMAN. ITEM 13. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A VOLUME LICENSING AGREEMENT WITH MICROSOFT. MR. BADU. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS MICROSOFT AGREEMENT, A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT. AND I'M ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO APPROVE THE. AND SIGN THE VOLUME LICENSING AGREEMENT WITH MICROSOFT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SIR. ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 ARE THE SAME, BUT

[14.00 27-0068 Discuss, consider and/or take action to authorize the County Judge to sign a Memorandum of Agreement 287(g) Task Force Model between the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a component of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Lubbock County Constable Precinct 1.]

WE WILL TAKE THEM UP INDIVIDUALLY. 14 DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION.

AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A 287 G TASK FORCE MODEL BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, OR ICE, A COMPONENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, DHS, AND LUBBOCK COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS PROGRAM SEVERAL MONTHS BACK AND WERE ABLE TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA. IN THIS PROGRAM. WE. WE WOULD BE ASSISTING. ICE IN WITH ILLEGALS OR ANY CRIMINAL ILLEGALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE IN OUR DAY TO DAY DUTIES.

I DO NOT FORESEE THAT IT WILL INTERFERE WITH ANYTHING IN MY OFFICE, NOR AM I GOING TO ACTIVELY SEEK OUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF MY NORMAL FUNCTIONS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN FUNDING AVAILABLE TO THE DEPARTMENTS AFTER MEETING QUALIFICATIONS. THERE IS A FIRST TIME STIPEND OF 100,000 AND THEN 75,000 QUARTERLY STIPEND FOR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM, WHICH COULD GO TOWARDS EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING, AS WELL AS VEHICLES THAT ARE NEEDED TO TAKE A BURDEN OFF THE TAXPAYERS. SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL IN THIS PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH IT AT THIS TIME. AND BEFORE WE BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS, THE PAPERWORK INVOLVED, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN DO WITH THE HELP OF RENEE OR. HOW MUCH PAPERWORK IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED? THERE WILL BE SOME TRACKING STATS THAT WILL BE SENT IN ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT I DON'T FORESEE. THE VOLUME IS GOING TO BE VERY HIGH IN MY PRECINCT ALONE. I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE VOLUME OF OTHER PRECINCTS, BUT THERE WILL BE TRACKING DATA THAT HAS TO BE SENT IN ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHICH I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON MY DEPARTMENT. AND THE ONLY ONLY TRAINING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IS THE 48 HOUR COURSE CERTIFIED THROUGH HOMELAND SECURITY AND ICE. AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER. NO, SIR.

YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DROP YOUR DUTIES AS CONSTABLE AND JUST GO TO CHASE AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES AS YOU PICK THEM UP IN THE LINE OF DUTY. YES, SIR. IF WE RUN ACROSS SOMETHING, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER THE PROGRAM TO MAKE AN ACTION. AT THAT POINT, IF WE STILL HAVE ANY OTHER ISSUES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTACT ICE DIRECTLY TO HAVE THEM COME OUT. BUT I WILL NOT BE ACTIVELY SEEKING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF MY DUTIES. WELL, CURRENTLY. CURRENTLY, IF Y'ALL RUN INTO SOMEONE, Y'ALL CONTACT ICE. YES AND WAIT ON THEM AND THEY COME AND YOU DON'T GET THE REVENUE OR THE STIPEND. CORRECT. HERE, HERE'S MY HERE'S MY MY PROBLEM IS, IS YOU YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO ADD A LOT TO YOUR PLATE. THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF UNDEFINED EXPENSE AND TIME COMMITTED TO THIS. THAT'S REALLY NOT DEFINED. IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF IT'S UNDEFINED. AND I DON'T. I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING ELSE. YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOU STOOD UP IN, IN BUDGET AND YOU SAID YOU GOT TOO MUCH GOING ON. THERE'S STACKS OF PAPERWORK. WE'RE SHORTHANDED. WE'RE HAVING TO WORK 18 HOUR DAYS. YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY. AND THAT'S MY, MY ISSUE HERE IS AND EVEN UNDER SECTION TEN, COST AND EXPENDITURES, PARTICIPATING PERSONNEL WILL CARRY OUT DESIGNATED FUNCTIONS AT THE EXPENSE, INCLUDING SALARIES, BENEFITS, LOCAL TRANSPORTATION, OFFICIAL OFFICIAL USE MATERIAL. I'M NOT ARGUING THE MISSION OF OF ICE. I'M JUST CHALLENGING. I'M

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QUESTIONING, IS IT GOING TO INTERFERE WITH YOUR STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU ALL WERE ELECTED TO DO IN LUBBOCK COUNTY FOR FOR THE JPS AND FOR YOUR PRECINCTS? THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. YOU SAY IT'S NOT, BUT BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING DEFINING ANY OF THAT. THERE'S THERE'S NO ANSWERS TO THE TO THE QUESTIONS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY THAT'S MY PUSHBACK. AND MY HANG UP HERE IS WE'RE. PUTTING MORE ON THE PLATE. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING MORE ON THE PLATE ON A. ALREADY A HEAVY WORKLOAD. THAT'S THAT'S IT. I DON'T FORESEE. WHY DON'T YOU FORESEE, THOUGH? TELL ME WHY YOU DON'T FORESEE THAT? PERSONALLY, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T HAVE ANY FOREKNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE BEST ANSWER OUT THERE. I CAN JUST TELL YOU FROM THE FEW AGENCIES I'VE TALKED TO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE THAT ARE DOING IT, IT HAS NOT BEEN A BIG BURDEN ON THEIR DEPARTMENT, BUT I CANNOT TELL YOU FOR SURE THAT IT WON'T. I HAVE NO IDEA. I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IT WOULD POSSIBLY BE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO ACTIVELY GO OUT LOOKING FOR THIS STUFF ON ANY OFF TIME. MY JOB IS STILL WHAT THE VOTERS ELECTED ME TO DO AND TO PERFORM THE FUNCTIONS OF THE OFFICE OF CONSTABLE. BUT IF WE ENTER INTO THIS CONTRACT AND YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T MEET YOUR. YOU DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THIS CONTRACT. THEN WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? IT JUST MEANS MY DEPARTMENT WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OF THE FUNDING. THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

THERE'S NOTHING BINDING THAT I HAVE TO PERFORM ANYTHING IN THERE. IF I DON'T GET THE REQUIRED TRAINING, IT'S NOT TO DO THE TRAINING. IT'S DONE. I CAN'T GO FURTHER WITH THE PROGRAM. SO WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE CREDENTIAL HANDLING PROCESS? THERE IS ON SITE CLASSING, BUT THERE'S ALSO ONLINE TRAINING THAT'S PROVIDED THROUGH HOMELAND SECURITY AND ICE TO GET CERTIFIED. HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? IT'S A 24 HOUR COURSE. WELL, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A CONSTABLE IN LUBBOCK COUNTY? 19 YEARS. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU RECALL? WHERE SOMEONE'S IMMIGRATION STATUS WAS KNOWN TO YOU DURING A DURING AN EVICTION? I CAN'T THINK OF ANY TIME IT WAS. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT REAL, NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU THAT YOU COMMONLY RUN ACROSS? NO, IF IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP ANYONE OR IF YOU HAVEN'T REPORTED, DO YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME OR DO YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME REPORTING REQUIREMENTS WITH THE, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THIS FOR THIS PLAN, AS IN, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE IF YOU HAVEN'T ARRESTED ANYONE, DO YOU STILL HAVE TO DO THE SAME REPORTING? YOU GOT TO FILE THE PAPERWORK EITHER WAY, RIGHT? WHETHER YOU PICK UP ONE PERSON OR 100 OR NONE, I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE SOME MONTHLY REPORTING ON THAT FOR STATISTICS. YES. GOTCHA. OKAY. I DO KNOW THAT LIKE SHALLOW WATER POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS STARTED THIS. AND. I KNOW THAT AFTER THEY HAD HAD THEIR FIRST INTERACTION AND PICKED ONE UP, THAT ALL THE TRAINING WENT WELL, EVERYTHING WENT GOOD.

AND THEY WERE IN THE TIME PERIOD OF LIKE, I THINK IT WAS 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING UNTIL THEY GOT PAYMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE FIRST ARREST BEFORE YOU, YOU GET ANY FUNDING. BUT I SPOKE TO THE POLICE CHIEF AT SHALLOW WATER AND HE HAD JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND THAT'S HOW I KNEW RENEE WAS WILLING TO HELP WAS IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, RENEE WAS, I GUESS IS THE LOCAL REP THAT Y'ALL DEALT WITH ON THIS. THAT'S WHOSE SIGNATURE IS ALSO ON THESE APPLICATIONS. AND SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA GOING INTO IT. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T PICK UP ANYBODY, THEN THE PAPERWORK IS GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL.

CORRECT. BUT I GUESS MY ARGUMENT IS THAT THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY HAVE HAS BEEN A STRAIN ON ALL FOUR OFFICES FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH PROMPTED THE DEPUTIES, WHICH I'M JUST WE'RE

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ADDING WE'RE JUST WE'RE ADDING MORE TO THEIR PLATE. I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A KIND OF A COMMON SENSE STANDPOINT, NOT PRO OR ANTI OR PRO OR ANTI CONSTABLE. I'M ALL I'M ALWAYS PRO LAW ENFORCEMENT. I HOPE EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THAT. BUT I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE DUTIES THAT THE CONSTABLES HAVE TO LUBBOCK COUNTY IN THE FUNCTIONS THAT THEY CARRY OUT THAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO FOR LUBBOCK COUNTY IN THE JP COURTS. THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING AT. I KNOW THAT YOU HAD SAID 19 YEARS. YOU HAD NEVER ENCOUNTERED A SITUATION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE PICKED SOMEBODY UP AND TAKEN THEM TO JAIL. MY CONSTABLE, LIKE THREE WEEKS AGO DOING A MOVE OUT, AND HE HAD SAID, WELL, I COULD HAVE JUST GOT MY $100,000 TO START THIS GRANT MOVE OUT. COMMISSIONER, I DON'T, I AM MY OFFICE IS NOT GOING TO GO ABOUT ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN MY NORMAL DUTIES. IF IN MY NORMAL PROCESS THAT I COME ACROSS IT IN SERVING EVICTIONS OR SERVING COURT ORDERED MOVE OUTS IS WHEN THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY. WHEN YOU DO COME ACROSS IT, WHAT'S THE STRAIN ON THE OFFICE? THERE'S PROBABLY JUST A SMALL TIME FRAME OF GETTING THE PERSON DOCUMENTED AND THEN TRANSPORTED TO JAIL, AND ICE IS OFFERED TO COME AND PICK THOSE PEOPLE UP FOR US. IF THERE'S A TIME CRUNCH AS WELL. SO IN THE EVENT THAT YOU RUN ACROSS AN INDIVIDUAL DURING AN EVICTION, THAT'S IMMIGRATION STATUS IS IN QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE ARREST OR DO YOU CONTACT ICE AND THEY COME OUT AND DO IT? I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THAT PARTICULAR PART OF IT. I THINK JOE PENSON HAS MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. I DO KNOW THAT ICE WILL COME OUT UPON REQUEST. PRECINCT THREE HAD A SITUATION WITH THAT LAST WEEK WHERE THEY HAD TO CALL ICE OUT ON A MOVE OUT. HOW LONG ARE YOU OBLIGATED UNDER THIS CONTRACT? IS IT JUST ONE YEAR? IF YOU DECIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WORTH WORTH DOING ANYMORE. WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THE PROGRAM? I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF YOU'RE NOT PERFORMING THE REQUIRED FUNCTIONS IN THE PROGRAM, THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY BENEFIT OF THE PROGRAM. WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE NOT, SAY, YOUR OFFICE ISN'T HAPPY WITH THE PROGRAM AFTER ONE YEAR, CAN YOU YOU COULD CAN YOU REMOVE YOURSELF FROM IT? I BELIEVE SO, BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU 100% ON THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ONE YEAR CONTRACT. SO WHEN THE FUNDING IS THERE UNTIL 29. CORRECT? YES. I'VE GOT AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. IT'S A 48 HOURS. YEAH, I READ IT. BUT YOU'RE NOT LOCKING US INTO A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO, SIR, THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION. IF I DECIDE TO MOVE. NO, THAT'S NOT IT. IT'S IN HERE. IT'S NOT LONG. AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED THROUGH FY 28. SO YES.

BUT WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO YOUR OFFICE TO TO, TO HAVE TO DO THIS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME STAFF. NO, SAME STAFF. NOTHING WILL CHANGE THERE. OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. BACK TO THE COST. WOULD YOU POINT TO ME IN THE AGREEMENT? HOW MUCH COUNTY WILL BE COMPENSATED IN THE AGREEMENT, THE PLANNING? WOULD YOU POINT THAT OUT? IN WHICH, WHICH PARAGRAPH? WHICH PAGE IN THE AGREEMENT DOES LUBBOCK COUNTY GET COMPENSATED? I DO NOT HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME. JUST BE ABLE TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU. I JUST HAVE THE HANDOUTS THAT WERE PROVIDED, THAT 100,000 FOR THE FIRST INITIAL STIPEND, 75,000. IS THAT IN THE AGREEMENT? YES, I BELIEVE IT IS. IF I TOLD YOU THAT IT WAS NOT IN THE AGREEMENT, WOULD YOU QUESTION THAT? NO, SIR. SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT OBLIGATES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COMPENSATE LUBBOCK COUNTY FOR WHATEVER ACTION THAT YOU, IN YOUR DUTIES AS CONSTABLE MAKE? CORRECT? IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE ON THE MONEY. IT STATES THAT IN THE PROGRAM THAT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE YOU'LL BE ELIGIBLE. WELL, NOT ONLY DOES IT SAY THAT, BUT WHAT IT DOES SAY UNDER PARAGRAPH TEN. AND COMMISSIONER DALBY QUOTED THE FIRST HALF OF IT, BUT HE DIDN'T FINISH THE QUOTE. HE SAID, WHETHER OR NOT THE LEA, WHICH IS YOU, RECEIVES FINANCIAL REIMBURSEMENT FOR SUCH COSTS THROUGH A FEDERAL GRANT OR OTHER FUNDING MECHANISM, IS NOT MATERIAL TO THIS MOA. SO THERE IS NO FUNDING MECHANISM IN THIS MOA.

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IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. THIS IS THE INFORMATION I GAVE YOU THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE ACTUAL MOA. I DID NOT SEE THAT AT THE TIME OF LOOKING IT OVER. JUDGE BENSON, CAN YOU SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT? I TRY TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT IN SPEAKING WITH RENEE. SORRY, WHO'S RENEE? IS THE ICE AGENT IN CHARGE OF THIS AREA? AGENT IN CHARGE. AND WHEN THIS MOA WAS PRINTED, IT ACTUALLY THAT MONEY CAME FROM THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL THAT CONGRESSMAN JODEY ARRINGTON WAS OVER. THE MOA WAS WRITTEN BACK IN THE DAY AND PUT INTO PLAY FOR THE HELP WAS ASKED FOR FROM THE OTHER AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF ICE. THEY KEPT THE SAME MOA. THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL WAS THEN CREATED AND THEY HAVE THE STIPEND AMOUNTS OFF OF THIS. THIS IS ALL THEY SUPPLY, BUT THIS IS THE MONEY THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE AGENCIES. AND INSTEAD OF REWRITING 30 PAGES OF MOA, THEY JUST INCORPORATED THIS STIPEND LEAFLET, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS. AND IT'S ALL UNDER THE 287 PROGRAM. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE MOA IS. THE ORIGINAL MOA FOR ICE AGENTS. THIS WAS CREATED AFTER THE MOA CAME ALONG. I MEAN, AFTER THE SO THIS THIS MOA THAT YOU'RE ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SIGN TODAY IS OUT OF DATE. NO, IT'S THE CURRENT MOA JUDGE. BUT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO FUNDING MECHANISM IN THE FUNDING MECHANISM IS THIS IS THIS STIPEND THAT HAS BEEN CREATED THROUGH THE 287 PROGRAM. HOW IS THAT INCORPORATED IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE DEBATING AND TALKING ABOUT TODAY? THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE GIVEN TO US. AND THERE'S THERE IS A I'VE GOT A MAP THAT SHOWS, I DON'T KNOW, THOUSANDS OF. THESE ARE ALL THE AGENCIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING AND COLLECTING MONEY FROM THE REVENUE FROM. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THOSE DOCUMENTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE THE AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THIS AGREEMENT IS IN TOTAL WHAT WE'RE DEBATING HERE TODAY. NOT NOT THE OTHER STUFF. I MEAN, IF THAT'S IF IF THAT IS ON THERE, IT SHOULD BE PART OF EITHER A, AN EXHIBIT A, EXHIBIT B, IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THIS DOCUMENT. THERE'S NOTHING ATTACHED TO THIS DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WHAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM. YES, SIR, I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT RENEE HAS SUPPLIED US WITH AND HAS VERIFIED. IN FACT, WHAT THIS DOCUMENT SAYS IS THAT NOTHING IN THIS DOCUMENT IS HAS ANY IT'S NOT MATERIAL THAT THAT RECEIVING FUNDING OFF OF A FEDERAL GRANT OR ANY OTHER FUNDING MECHANISM IS NOT EVEN MATERIAL TO THIS MOA. I AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN SUPPLIED WITH HERE. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS, AND THIS WILL BE PROBABLY THE LAST THING I SAY HERE IS ANYTIME THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE TABLE OR MONEY RECEIVED FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S FREE OR VERY FEW STRINGS ATTACHED, AND IT'S MADE TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY, ALWAYS RAISES A RED FLAG TO ME.

I'M JUST JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE LIKE ROAD FUNDING THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE I'M YOU. THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. AND FIRST LOOK, IT WOULD SEEM LIKE IT'S A GRAND SLAM. IT'S NOT GOING TO COST ANYTHING. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THIS. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS STIPEND OF $100,000 THAT IMMEDIATELY RAISES A RED FLAG.

I'M A I'M A I'M A. SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A 287 AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY JAIL. THAT'S CORRECT.

WE DO FOR FOR DETENTION ONLY. OKAY. FOR DETENTION ONLY. AND DID IT STATE IN THAT MOA THE FUNDING? YES. IT'S WHAT THE IT'S WHAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES FOR EACH DAY OF OF HOLDING A DETAINER THAT IS PART OF THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALSO ALSO UNDER THE COST AND EXPENDITURE UNDER PARAGRAPH TEN, IT TALKS ABOUT ICE INSTALLING IT SOFTWARE INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU CHECKED WITH MR. BADU ABOUT ICE COMING IN AND INSTALLING

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SOFTWARE INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? SIR, I HAVE NOT I DON'T EVEN HAVE A COMPUTER.

AND IF I WERE TO GET ONE, I'D BE THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO MR. BADU ABOUT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT THE MONEY TO BUY THE COMPUTER WITH, SO THAT'S. WE'RE NOT TO THAT PART OF THE ROAD YET. WELL, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR REPORTS? YOU BORROW A COMPUTER, RIGHT? YOU BORROW A TERMINAL. YEAH, SURE. SO I MY MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS? SOFTWARE THAT, THAT I, THAT ICE IS GOING TO BE INSTALLING IN, IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SOFTWARE IS IF YOU CHOOSE TO BUY THEIR SOFTWARE, YOU CAN BUY THE COMPUTER, YOU BUY THE SOFTWARE WITH THAT MONEY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN US.

AND YOU CAN TIE INTO IMMENSE AMOUNT OF STUFF YOU CAN TIE INTO FACIAL RECOGNITION IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT YOU CAN BUY WITH THEIR MONEY TO PUT ON THEIR COMPUTER. WELL, ACCORDING TO THIS, THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE ALLOW ICE TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN AND MAINTAIN THROUGH OUR IT INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS SOFTWARE THAT'S THAT'S IN THIS AGREEMENT, NOT IN SOMETHING FUTURE THAT'S IN THIS AGREEMENT. AND MY QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU CHECKED WITH IT DEPARTMENT ON ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE ICE 4300 A SENSITIVE SYSTEM? NO, SIR, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE IN OUR SYSTEM AS WELL. ACCORDING TO THIS AGREEMENT IT IS. IF WE SIGN THIS, THEN WE ALLOW THEM TO COME IN AND INSTALL THAT SOFTWARE, AS HAS THE HAS THE DAS OFFICE REVIEWED THIS? THEY ASKED FOR FORM ONLY, NOT FOR SUBSTANCE, MR. BURKE? YES, SIR, WE HAVE REVIEWED IT. AS TO FORM, I VISITED WITH RENEE BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED. YES. THE MOA DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PARAMETERS FOR PAYMENT THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. AND ESSENTIALLY A GENTLEMAN'S HANDSHAKE OF SORTS BETWEEN THE AGENCIES THAT PARTICIPATE AND ICE ITSELF. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, IT'S ON THAT PAMPHLET OR BROCHURE.

THERE'S A SMALL PART THAT LISTS SOME OF THE PROPOSED PAYMENTS THAT WOULD BE COMING THIS WAY, BUT IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE MOA. FROM WHAT I LEARNED FROM ICE AND WHAT I LEARNED FROM MY RESEARCH ON IT, THIS IS AN. THEY ARE OPERATING UNDER AN OLDER MOA THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. WITH ACTIONS OF THIS NATURE. EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION LOOKS AT ICE AND ITS OPERATIONS AND ITS AFFILIATIONS DIFFERENTLY. THE MOA WE ARE USING IS A FIRST TERM TRUMP MOA THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED DURING HIS SECOND TERM. THERE WERE A LOT OF CHANGES MADE BETWEEN THE FIRST TRUMP TERM AND THE SECOND TRUMP TERM IN THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE BIDEN TERM, OF COURSE, IN THE MIDDLE, THE FIRST TRUMP TERM HAD PARAMETERS IN PLACE WHICH WERE VERY COSTLY TO THE PARTICIPATING AGENCIES. ALL AGENCIES HAD TO GO OUT OF TOWN TO THE EAST COAST AND PARTICIPATE IN AT LEAST A WEEK'S WORTH OF TRAINING ON THEIR OWN DIME, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF REIMBURSEMENT LATER. THAT'S WHY CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO ALLOW A 40 HOUR IN-HOUSE COMPUTER TRAINING FOR ANYONE THAT PARTICIPATES. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS REALLY JUST A VERBAL PROMISE REGARDING THE FEES THAT WILL BE COMING, AS OUTLINED IN THIS BROCHURE OF SORTS. AS MR. BERT, AS AS THE CIVIL DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND YOUR DUTIES TO PROTECT COUNTY, DOES THAT GIVE YOU ANY PAUSE OR ANY THING THAT THAT WE'RE WE'RE AGREEING TO SOMETHING JUST ON A WINK AND A NOD. WELL, I THINK ANYTIME WE HAVE A. AN AGREEMENT THAT DOESN'T FULLY SET OUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, ALL IMPACTS, WHETHER WHAT WE ARE TO RECEIVE, WHAT WE ARE, TO PROVIDE OURSELVES, THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF CONCERN WITH THAT. I WOULD NOTE ALSO, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS

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A MOMENT AGO ABOUT PARTICIPATION. THE. AGREEMENT ITSELF, AS IT EXISTS, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY ICE PARTICIPATION UNLESS ICE IS NOTIFIED AND APPROVES OF THAT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION. SO IT'S NOT THAT OUR PEOPLE, WHETHER IT IS OUR CONSTABLES OR OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHO IS ALSO LOOKING AT THIS ARRANGEMENT, COULD OPERATE ON THEIR OWN ACCORD. I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE DOING SOME ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO ARREST. IT'S MORE INVESTIGATION AND GAINING INFORMATION, AND THOSE ARE FULLY SANCTIONED BY ICE. IN FACT, ICE SETS THOSE UP WITH THE EACH INDEPENDENT AGENCY. I KNOW THERE WAS TALK ABOUT HOW WE GET OUT OF THE AGREEMENT, AND THERE IS SOME TERMINATION LANGUAGE IN THERE FOR BOTH PARTIES TO IN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND VICE VERSA, SHOULD THAT COME UP. BUT YES, THE THAT IS A WITH REGARD TO THE FINANCES, THAT'S A SITUATION THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND CONSTABLE PENSON WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN AT LEAST SETTING UP SOME MEETINGS WITH ICE AND WHATNOT SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT IS THE, THE INFORMATION WE GOT BACK FROM ICE THAT EVERYTHING REGARDING THE FINANCES IS INCLUDED ONLY IN THAT PARTICULAR ONE TWO PAGE PAMPHLET AND NOT BEEN FORMALLY ADDED TO THE INITIAL TRUMP PRESIDENCY ERA MOA. UNDER MR. BURT, UNDER THE THE LIABILITY CLAUSES OF THIS AND WHAT THE COUNTY'S LIABILITY. SEEMS LIKE.

PARTICIPATING LEE PERSONNEL WILL BE TREATED AS FEDERAL EMPLOYEES FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE FEDERAL TORT CLAIMS ACT. BUT IT DOES NOT. IT DOES NOT. I GUESS, WAIVE THE LIABILITY FOR ANY BODY UNDER THIS CONTRACT, WHETHER IT'S CONSTABLE ONE OR THEIR DEPUTIES, CONSTABLE TWO OR THEIR DEPUTIES OR CONSTABLE FOUR OR THEIR DEPUTIES, IT DOES NOT WAIVE THEIR LIABILITY FOR PERSONNEL EXPENSES INCURRED BY REASON OF DEATH, INJURY OR INCIDENTS. GIVING RISE TO LIABILITY OR DOESN'T DOESN'T WAIVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL NEGLIGENCE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS MENTION IN THERE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL REPRESENT THE PARTICIPATING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS IN CASES AS THEY ARISE, BUT THAT IS PRIMARILY WITH THE TORT CLAIMS THAT THE COURT JUST MENTIONED.

LET'S SAY REPRESENTATION IS GRANTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT WAS MENTIONED ALSO BY THE ICE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE TALKED TO. THERE'S ALSO MENTIONED IN THERE THAT IF THERE IS INJURY TO ONE OF OUR PARTICIPANTS OR ANY NON ICE LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTICIPANT FOR THAT MATTER, THAT FEDERAL WORKERS COMPENSATION WILL STEP IN AND PROVIDE THE THE COVERAGE FOR THOSE INSTANCES. BUT THAT BEING SAID, AND JOE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT WORST CASE SCENARIOS AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE. AND I THINK MYSELF AND OUR OFFICE ALWAYS HAVE A GO TO THAT THAT SPOT. YES, THERE ARE SOME. SOME QUESTIONS THERE. THAT BEING SAID, AND FROM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH RENE. WELL, THERE'S NEVER THE ATTENTION THAT ANY OF THESE PARTICULAR INSTANCES IN WHICH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR OTHER AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE PARTICIPATING WOULD BE OF A NATURE TO BRING ABOUT THOSE SORTS OF DIRE INSTANCES. BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S ENTIRELY IN UNKNOWN SITUATION AS WELL. ON OFF WHAT IF CLAUSE, BECAUSE A

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LOT OF STUFF THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING SOUNDS KIND OF LIKE BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE BETWEEN AGENCIES JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS, HEY, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, DON'T BECOME A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE. THAT'S NOT THE EXPECTATION THEY DO. SO THAT'S MADE THAT READS TO ME LIKE IT'S BEEN MAKING THAT VERY CLEAR, BUT IT DOES SAY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT AN OFF CHANCE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOES HAPPEN, THEY WOULD PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF WORKER'S COMP COVERAGE, WHICH OUR YOU GUYS, YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU'RE NOT EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR THAT. YOUR DEPUTIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WORKER'S COMP IS THE ONLY ONES ELIGIBLE FOR 100%. SO OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE'RE PLANNING TAKING CARE OF ANYWAYS. BUT, BUT JUST ASKING YOU GUYS TO DO IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF YOUR DUTIES, FILING EVICTIONS AND WHATNOT, SERVING PAPER. IF YOU RUN ACROSS SOMEBODY WHO'S IMMIGRATION STATUS IS LESS THAN LEGAL, YOU'RE NOT BEING ASKED TO ARREST. YOU'RE NOT BEING ASKED. YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONTACT ICE. AND FOR THEM TO COME IN FROM THAT POINT FORWARD AND HANDLE THE REST AND TO ASSIST, POSSIBLY ASSIST. BUT WITH THE ICE OVERSIGHT, IT'S NEVER CONTEMPLATED THAT OUR LUBBOCK COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES WOULD ACT ON THEIR OWN ACCORD. I MIGHT TELL YOU THAT. AND I ANTICIPATE THAT FOR THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT SESSION, THAT Y'ALL WILL VERY LIKELY HAVE AN ITEM SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT IT WILL BE WITH REGARD TO THE LUBBOCK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND FOR EXAMPLE, IN TALKING WITH THEM, THEY ENCOUNTER ICE ON A MUCH MORE REGULAR BASIS THAN I WOULD SAY OUR CONSTABLES DO AND HAVE SOME ACCOMMODATION PRACTICES ALREADY IN PLACE. EVEN WITHOUT THE EXECUTION OF THIS PARTICULAR MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT. AND IN THEIR INSTANCE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THERE ARE A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES WHERE THEY CORRESPOND AND CHECK IN WITH ICE, AND THEY FEEL THAT THIS AGREEMENT WOULD STREAMLINE, SOME OF WHICH MIGHT ALREADY BE IN PLACE, AND ALLOW THERE TO BE AN INSTANTANEOUS COMMUNICATION WITH ICE, RATHER THAN HAVING TO PERHAPS STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND REACH OUT AND WHATNOT. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SCHEMATIC THAN, THAN OUR CONSTABLES WOULD BE. BUT MR. BURT, THEIR MOA IS THE EXACT SAME AS THIS ONE. CORRECT? IT WILL BE, YES. WHEN WHEN JUDGE HAD ALL THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME MOA THAT EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN WEST TEXAS IS USING. CORRECT. IT'S WHAT WAS POINTED OUT BY ICE. I KNEW THAT THE SHERIFFS OFFICE WAS COMING TO US, AND I WAS GOING TO ASK IF IT WASN'T THE CONSTABLES THAT WERE ASKING FOR THIS, WOULD YOU BE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS? ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE I'VE. THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY LIABILITY QUESTIONS, NOT JUST COST QUESTIONS, BUT THERE'S LIABILITY QUESTIONS. THERE'S DUTIES QUESTIONS AS WELL. THERE IS A MUCH MORE DETAILED OR A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, I SHOULD SAY. AND IT'S ACTUALLY A GRANT OF SORTS DIFFERENT FROM THIS MOA. AND IT'S MUCH MORE AKIN TO THE GRANT OF SORTS THAT WE UTILIZE AT OUR LUBBOCK COUNTY DETENTION CENTER FOR THE HOUSING OF ICE. DETAINEES AND ARRESTEES. AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THERE IS A MUCH MORE THOROUGH AGREEMENT WITH A LOT MORE. EXPECTATIONS, DEMANDS, DUTIES ON ON BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM. BUT THIS THE MOA IN AND OF ITSELF IS A MUCH MORE LOOSE AGREEMENT. AND I'VE DISCUSSED WITH MYSELF TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION FOR SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD ORDINARILY WANT TO SEE, PERHAPS ADDRESSED A LITTLE MORE FULLY IN OUR MEMORANDUMS. I, I THINK MY ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALREADY INTERACTS WITH ICE. THEY ALREADY DO IT. IT'S IN. IT'S IN THEIR CONSTABLES DO NOT. AND THERE IS A CLEAR OBLIGATION TO THEIR COURTS. THAT'S THAT'S MY. AND, YOU KNOW, ASSIGNED DUTIES AND THAT'S THAT'S MY ARGUMENT HERE. AND THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S THE HILL I'M GOING TO DIE ON WITH THIS. CONSTABLE BENSON, DO YOU DEAL WITH US? OBVIOUSLY, THE WEEK THAT I GOT ALL THIS PAPERWORK, A FLUKE, I WENT TO GO DO AN EVICTION. ACTUALLY, I WENT TO GO DO A WRIT OF POSSESSION. AND NO, THEY

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WEREN'T THERE. BUT IF HAD THEY BEEN THERE? I FOUND THREE PASSPORTS. ALL EXPIRED FOR TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. SO I CALLED RENEE. I SAID, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, JUST HAD THEY BEEN THERE, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE'D HAVE HAD THIS IN PLAY, WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING FOR US TO ACT ON? AND HE SAID, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO IT WAS JUST A FLUKE THAT I FELL ONTO IT THAT DAY. THERE'S NO TELLING HOW MANY OTHERS THAT I'VE COME ACROSS THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN, BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THAT MODE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. DO YOU CONTACT THE DEA IF YOU FIND DRUGS OR DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IN A HOUSE DURING A MOVE OUT? NO TAG EVER GET CONTACT YOU GUYS OR GET INVOLVED? NO, I MEAN, NOT UNLESS IT'S JUST A HUGE AMOUNT OF IT. YOU KNOW, IF IF IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT, WE'D MAKE OUR OWN CASE OR CONTACT THE. OUR DRUG ENFORCEMENT. WELL, YOU COME ACROSS COCAINE IN THEIR HOUSE. IT'S GOING TO BE YOU CAUGHT THAT FISH, YOU CLEAN IT. NOBODY'S GOING TO COME DO IT FOR YOU. SO WE MAKE OUR OWN CASE. SO CONSTABLE SANCHEZ IS PRESENT. SIR, I WAS GOING TO ASK, HAVE YOU HAD ANY HAD ANY DEALINGS WITH WITH ICE LAST WEEK DURING AN EVICTION. YES, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION, SIR, OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR DUTIES AS CONSTABLE YOU HAD. HAVE YOU HAD ANY DEALINGS WITH WITH ICE ONCE, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. OKAY, I GOT YOU. DID YOU CONTACT THEM OR WERE THEY PRESENT AT THE TIME OR. NO, WE CONTACTED THEM BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A RAID AND WE HAD A MEXICAN NATIONAL TRYING TO RUN OUT THE BACK DOOR. I STOPPED THEM AT THE BACK DOOR AND QUESTIONED THEM. AND THEN A DEPUTY CALLED ICE AND THEY CAME AND GOT HIM. SO THAT'S THAT IS PART OF THE COURSE OF YOUR NORMAL DUTIES. THANK YOU, CONSTABLE SANCHEZ. REAL QUICK. I'M SORRY, I, I NOTICED YOURS IS YOURS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S NOT LISTED AS PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEMS TODAY. THE CONTRACT WITH. IS THAT ON PURPOSE? WELL, I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF ON OUR PLATE ALREADY. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE JUST AN EXTRA THING FOR US TO WORRY ABOUT. WE DO RUN INTO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MEXICAN NATIONALS AND PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES IN OUR PRECINCT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE ALREADY TO DEAL WITH. I THINK THAT'S MY POINT. THAT'S MY WHOLE. IS THERE'S ENOUGH GOING ON WITH ALL THREE OFFICES. THIS IS GOING TO ADD A LAYER. IT'S GOING TO ADD A SPECIFIC LEVEL OF JOB DUTIES THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE. AND I JUST THINK BACK ON THE, THE BUDGET ASK US. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT GET COMPENSATED. FEDERAL CREDENTIALS. YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE, THE TEXT MESSAGES OF STACKS OF PAPERWORK THIS HIGH.

AND IF WE ADD ONE MORE THING, THEN IT'S IT'S GOING TO ADD TO THAT. SO THAT'S. ANYWAY, I SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD NOW. SO IF I MAY SAY COMMISSIONER, THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE I DO HAVE THE BIGGEST PRECINCT, SO I HAVE A MORE WORKLOAD THAN THESE GUYS HAVE. SO I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE NOT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE GIVE THE TWO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE GAVE THEM EACH A DEPUTY WHICH HAS CUT THEIR WORKLOAD. AND THE THING IS WITH THAT, I COME ACROSS THOSE GUYS AT THE HOUSE. THAT WOULD HAVE SIMPLY BEEN A MATTER OF IT WOULD HAVE CUT TEN MINUTES INTO MY DAY BECAUSE ALL I DO IS CALL ICE. ICE. THEY'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO COME OVER AND BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO COME OUT AND ASSUME THE REST. TAKE THEM AND BOOK THEM IN. BUT YOU TOLD ME IN THE PAST THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TEN MINUTES. YOU KNOW, WITH THE DEPUTY, I DO, COMMISSIONER, AND THIS IS GOING TO LEAVE THIS COUNTY IN A BETTER SPOT. THIS MONEY. YES, IT'S ALL IF. BUT I THINK IT HAPPENS. WE'LL HAVE. MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SPEND. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE TAXPAYERS BACKS. AND WHEN I LEAVE, WHEN HE LEAVES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT, BETTER EQUIPMENT TO LOOK AND LEAVE BEHIND THAN IT WILL BE, THAN HAVING TO ASK Y'ALL FOR BIG TICKET ITEMS AND BY VEST EVERY FIVE YEARS OR BY VEHICLES. THIS IS ALL MONEY OUT THERE TO BE HAD TO BE SPENT, AND IT'S FREE.

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ASKING THEY'RE ASKING FOR DEPUTIES IS A BIG TICKET ITEM. YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. YES, SIR. AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT WORK. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I'VE TOLD PEOPLE IT'S THE STUMBLE ON MODE. WE'RE GOING TO STUMBLE UPON THEM. WE'RE NOT GOING TO WALK OUT WITH A FISTFUL OF WARRANTS AND START PAVING IN STORAGE BUILDINGS AND RESTAURANTS LOOKING FOR ILLEGAL. IT'S GOING TO BE AS WE STUMBLE UPON THEM, TRAFFIC STOPS OR RISKS OF POSSESSIONS, EVICTIONS, SMALL CLAIMS, THE SAME STUFF WE DO EVERY DAY. WHEN YOU COME ACROSS, WHEN YOU'RE SERVING A WRIT OR YOU'RE DOING A MOVE OUT OR WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING AND DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, AND YOU COME ACROSS SOMEBODY WITH LIMITED ENGLISH LANGUAGE, SPEAK SPANISH. HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? CALL FOR AN INTERPRETER FROM THE PD OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SO THEY COME OUT AND DO THAT? YES, SIR. WHO PAYS FOR THAT? WHO PAYS FOR THAT INTERPRETER? IT'S JUST A COURTESY AMONGST OFFICERS. JUST LIKE WHEN OUR HIS FEMALE DEPUTY GOES AND DOES A PAT DOWN FOR A FEMALE OF A FEMALE SUBJECT ON SIDE OF THE ROAD. HE'S NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT. IT'S JUST A COMMON COURTESY AMONG OTHER ENTITIES, OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BECAUSE THAT ACCORDING TO THIS MOU, MOA, ALL THAT EXPENSE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED BY YOU. THE THE AS THE LEE. IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T BE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY. IT'D BE PROVIDED BY YOU, AN INTERPRETER, TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO COME OVER AND INTERPRET. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'LL THEY'LL COME OVER. PD I KNOW WILL COME OVER. THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE DUTIES THAT THAT I DO WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING OFF OF THE MOA. I'M NOT GOING OFF OF WHAT A HANDSHAKE OR A WINK OR A NOD IS. I'M GOING OFF OF THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING THAT WE SIGN TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. THIS GIVES YOU THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO ARREST, WITHOUT WARRANT, ANY ALIEN ENTERING OR ATTEMPTING TO UNLAWFULLY ENTER THE UNITED STATES IN THE OFFICER'S PRESENT OR VIEW, WITHOUT WARRANT, SO YOU CAN MAKE THE ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT, EVEN WITHOUT CONTACTING ICE. IS THAT CORRECT? ACCORDING TO THIS, ACCORDING TO THAT. BUT WHAT WE WILL DO IS CONTACT RENEE. RENEE RUNS I AGAIN, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT WHAT YOU. THE WINKS AND NODS AND THE GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT. OKAY. ALSO, IT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE THAT THIS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT FOR FELONIES WHICH HAVE BEEN COMMITTED AND WHICH ARE COGNIZABLE UNDER ANY LAW OF THE UNITED STATES REGULATING THE ADMISSION, EXCLUSION, EXPULSION, OR REMOVAL OF ALIENS. IF THE OFFICER HAS A REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE ALIEN TO BE ARRESTED IS. THE UNITED STATES IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW AND IS LIKELY TO ESCAPE BEFORE A WARRANT REMAINED. WITHOUT WARRANT. TO ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. JUDGE, CAN YOU ARREST ANYBODY WITHOUT WARRANT FOR 24 HOURS? NO. YOU CAN'T ARREST ANYONE WITHOUT WARRANT FOR 24 HOURS. REALLY? THAT'S FUNNY. IF YOU HAVE SUSPICION. UNDER WHAT GODS CAN YOU GUYS ARREST PEOPLE? WELL, IN OUR IN OUR IN OUR PRESENCE. THAT'S WITHOUT A WARRANT. SUSPICION. SO? SO YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE GIVEN WARRANTS BY ICE TO SERVE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THEY HAVE THEY THAT'S ONE OF THEIR SEPARATE MODES. WELL, IT'S NOT SEPARATE BECAUSE HERE IT SAYS THIS IS UNDER BULLET POINT NUMBER FOUR, THE POWER TO SERVE AND EXECUTE WARRANTS OF ARREST FOR IMMIGRATION VIOLATIONS UNDER THE UNDER THE 2287 A AND THE CFR 2287.5. SO THEY ARE ACCORDING TO THIS, THEY HAVE THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO HAND YOU A WARRANT TO GO ARREST SOMEBODY. THAT'S NOT WHAT IS WHAT DOES IT SAY? THE POWER TO SERVE AND EXECUTE WARRANTS CAN'T ARREST THEM. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM WARRANTS AND SEND THEM OUT TO SERVE THEM. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. YEAH. THERE'S THE WHAT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? WHAT IS THAT? JUDGE, I'M GLAD YOU'RE GETTING THESE QUESTIONS OUT OF YOUR WAY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. ME TOO. WITH THEM, YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T BE ASKING 87 A HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE 287 G. IT DOES. WE'RE SIGNING 287 B WE'RE NOT SIGNING 287 A THIS ISN'T A 287 AGREEMENT. THIS IS THE POWERS UNDER THE 87 A FOUR AND THE CFR 287.5 C TWO, WHICH IS THE POWER

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AND AUTHORITY TO ARREST WITHOUT WARRANTS. I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE NOT SIGNING THAT AGREEMENT. WE'RE INCORPORATING THAT AGREEMENT INTO THIS ONE. IT'S ALL INCORPORATED. THIS MOA INCORPORATES ALL OF THAT FEDERAL LAW FOR THESE CONSTABLES. THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. IT TAKES ALL OF THAT FEDERAL LAW, INCLUDING INCLUDING THE POWER TO ADMINISTER OATHS AND TAKE AND CONSIDER EVIDENCE COMPLETE REQUIRED ALIEN PROCESSING TO INCLUDE FINGERPRINTING, PHOTOGRAPHING AND INTERVIEWING, AS WELL AS PREPARATION OF AFFIDAVITS AND THE TAKING OF SWORN STATEMENTS. DO YOU ALL CURRENTLY DO FINGERPRINTING? NO, SIR, I WOULD NEXT. WELL, ACCORDING TO THIS, THE JAIL THAT WOULD BE DONE AT THE JAIL AND THE JAIL HAS A 287 G RIGHT AGREEMENT. SO WE HAVE THE AGREEMENTS ALREADY SET IN PLACE IN THIS COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF THESE POWERS AND DUTIES THAT YOU'RE ALREADY SAYING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ADD TO. RIGHT. SO WHY, FOR ANY AGENCY, CONSTABLES DON'T TAKE FINGERPRINTS. HE DOESN'T TAKE FINGERPRINTS. THEY ARREST PEOPLE, TAKE THEM TO THE JAIL, AND THE FINGERPRINTING IS DONE THERE. WELL, THAT MOU, THAT'S THE SO DOES THAT. THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT. THEY HAVE THOSE AGREEMENTS WHICH THIS COVERS. THIS DOESN'T COVER THAT. IT SAYS THAT THE LEE MUST DO THAT. THE OTHER THING IS THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO ISSUE IMMIGRATION DETAINERS. HAVE YOU EVER. DO YOU DO YOU KNOW HOW TO HOW TO ISSUE AN IMMIGRATION DETAINER? YES, SIR, I DO, THROUGH THE FEDERAL MARSHAL'S OFFICE, AS I DID WHEN I WAS WITH THEM, YOUR HONOR. SO. SO THIS GIVES YOU THAT AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THOSE IMMIGRATION DETAINERS. THE THING IS, YOUR HONOR, THERE THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT IN THAT MOA. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS. THERE'S THE JAIL, THERE'S WARRANTS. NO, NO, NO, NOT IN THIS ONE. THIS ONE IS JUST FOR THE LEE. THIS ONE ISN'T DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JAILS. OKAY? THIS IS THE ONE, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS. THERE'S A WARRANT DIVISION THAT GOES OUT AND DOES THE WARRANTS.

AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE THAT'S JUST WE'RE COMING UPON THEM AS WE COME UPON THEM. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE JAIL. THAT'S THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS TO THIS. WE'RE NOT THE WARRANT GUYS. IT SAYS THAT YOU. IT IS THE MODEL. THEY'RE CALLED MODELS. LET'S GET THAT CLEAR. THE JAIL MODEL.

THE WARRANT SERVICE OFFICER. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GET THOSE FISTFUL OF WARRANTS. AND THEY'RE GOING OUT AFTER THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AND THEY GET THE WARRANTS ISSUED AND WHERE THE TASK FORCE MODEL. RIGHT. AND THE TASK FORCE MODEL, THE ONE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TO ADOPT TODAY, GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE IMMIGRATION DETAINERS.

THAT'S JUST PART OF THE BOOKING PROCESS. YOU'RE PUTTING A MANDATE ON IT TO WHERE THEY DON'T GET OUT. THEY'RE HELD FOR IMMIGRATION. THAT'S ALL THAT IS. IF YOU'LL PULL UP A JAIL.

LUBBOCK COUNTY BOOK IN THE JAIL ON YOUR PHONE, YOU'LL SEE ON EVERY ONE OF THEM HOLD FOR ICE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A MANDATE AS TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT AGREEMENTS IN PLACE THAT 280, THE 287 G JAIL MODEL OR DETENTION MODEL IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN LUBBOCK COUNTY. YES, SIR. IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST A PROCESS BOOKING THEM IN. YOU'RE GOING TO THE LUBBOCK COUNTY BOOKING SHEET. YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE PROPERTY. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A MANDATE ON THERE THAT THEY STAY IN PLACE. THEY CAN'T BE RELEASED ON BOND. THEY CAN'T BE RELEASED. AND THEY'RE THERE UNTIL UNTIL THEY HAVE THEIR ICE CREAM. THAT'S NOT YOUR AGREEMENT. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU YOU'VE MADE IT CLEAR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS. CAN WE JUST GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS? WELL, I HAVE I HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS. WELL, I'M SURE YOU DO. I AM SURE I DO, AND I GIVE YOU ALL THE COURTESY THAT YOU WANT TO ASK, ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK THESE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS INSTEAD OF SITTING HERE TRYING TO. WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. DON'T YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT THE PEOPLE OF LUBBOCK COUNTY GET THE ANSWERS FROM THERE? WOULD YOU ACT LIKE THIS WITH THE SHERIFF IF THE SHERIFF WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I EXPECT YOU TO DO THAT IN TWO WEEKS. WELL, I HEAR I EXPECT YOU TO PROTECT LUBBOCK COUNTY. OKAY, I WILL, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALSO ON YOUR POWERS AND DUTIES UNDER THE BULLET POINT, IT HAS THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO TAKE AND MAINTAIN CUSTODY OF ALIENS ARRESTED PURSUANT TO THE IMMIGRATION LAWS AND TRANSPORT AND TRANSPORT SUCH ALIENS TO ICE APPROVED DETENTION FACILITIES. THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING AN ARREST AND TRANSPORT AND TRANSPORT. YES, SIR. WE DO THAT AT A WRIT OF POSSESSION. RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU

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HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO A WRIT OF POSSESSION. YOU DON'T HAVE THIS AUTHORITY AS OF YET. NO, BUT IF BEING SAID, WE WOULD. THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE AN ICE DETENTION FACILITY THAT THAT. LUBBOCK COUNTY OPERATES ITS LUBBOCK COUNTY DETENTION CENTER. WHERE IS THE NEAREST ICE APPROVED DETENTION FACILITY TO LUBBOCK, TEXAS. LUBBOCK COUNTY JAIL. WHERE IS THE NEAREST WHERE IS THE NEAREST ICE DETENTION? I HAVE NO CLUE. I KNOW THAT WE WERE. I IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT AS AS THE CONSTABLES THAT ARE BRINGING THIS MOU, THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS TO THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT THAT'S BEFORE US. BUT IF WE HAVE A JAIL TO TAKE SOMEONE TO JAIL AND THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT THERE, AND THAT'S AN ICE APPROVED, WHY WOULD WE GO TO SAN ANGELO OR BIG SPRINGS OR WHEREVER WE MAY BE? VINCENT HANSEN IS THE CLOSEST ONE JUDGE, IN ANSWER TO YOUR PRIVATE PRIOR QUESTION, WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO TAKE IT, TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS OUTSIDE OF THIS AGREEMENT. I'VE DONE IT BEFORE. I'VE PULLED 15 OUT OF THE BACK END OF A RYDER TRUCK BEFORE, AND SAME THING WE DID HERE. I TURN THEM OVER TO ICE. WE HAVE THAT. WE HAVE THE OUTSIDE OF THIS. WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, THEN, OF THIS AGREEMENT? THE PURPOSE OF THE AGREEMENT IS TO GET IN WITH THE THE GRANT MONEY THAT'S HERE FROM THE GOVERNMENT, AND WE HAVE TO DO IT, AND WE HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH THAT. IT'S JUST A IT'S A MORE OF A FORMALITY, BUT WHETHER WHETHER I ENTER THIS FORMALITY OR NOT, I CAN GO DO IT. UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THE GRANT MONEY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS AGREEMENT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JUDGE. OKAY. AGAIN, BUT WHETHER WHETHER SO I'M GOING TO DO IT, WHETHER WE GET THE GRANT FUNDING OR NOT. IF I, ACCORDING TO THIS, GOING TO DO IT, WHETHER YOU'RE NOT YOU GET THE GRANT FUNDING. YEAH. SO YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THE JOB. BUT NOW THE COUNTY MAY RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR IT. I TOOK ONE OUT OF DRIFTWOOD APARTMENT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. I TOOK, I TOOK, I TOOK A PAIR OF DRIFTWOOD APARTMENTS. YEAH, I DID IT MYSELF JUST IN THE LAST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. I'VE ALREADY DONE THIS. SO WE'RE YOU'RE NOT GRANTING WHERE YOU SAY WE HAVE THE POWER TO ISSUE WARRANTS AND ISSUE. WE'RE NOT ISSUING ANYTHING, JUDGE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE POWER THE THE TO. WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE ARREST POWERS. JUDGE. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. WE'RE NOT DOING THIS IS NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO WHAT WE CAN DO. IT'S NOT GIVING US SOME KIND OF SUPERPOWER THAT'S UNREGULATED AND UNTRAINED FOR. IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING. ALL WE'RE DOING IS SIMPLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM BY GETTING COMPENSATED FOR WHAT WE ALREADY DO. ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THESE THINGS. AGREEMENT DOES NOT SET FORTH THAT COMPENSATION. I UNDERSTAND JUDGE AND AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN SPLIT HAIRS ALL DAY LONG.

WE CAN WE CAN SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THAT ALL WE KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT, BUT WE CAN ALREADY ESTABLISH THAT WE HAVE A DEPUTY IN HERE WHO JUST STARTED THIS MORNING, WHO IS A CURRENT TFO OFFICER, WHO HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE ARREST AND CAN ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT ALL OF US HAVE SET UP HERE, BECAUSE NONE OF US HAVE TAKEN PART IN THE AGREEMENT AND SAY, WELL, MAYBE THIS, MAYBE THAT HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT INSTALLING A SOFTWARE ON OUR STUFF. THERE'S NOTHING TO INSTALL AS FAR AS THE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO USE IS AN APP CALLED MOBILE IDENTIFY. WE. WE SHOOT THAT INFORMATION OVER TO ICE THROUGH MOBILE IDENTIFY ON A PHONE. THEY SEND US BACK. IT SAYS EITHER YES OR NO ON THE ARREST. THAT'S ALL WE DO. WE SCAN AN APP WITH THAT PHONE. IT SENDS IT OVER TO ICE ON THE APP.

THEY TURN AROUND WITHIN JUST SECONDS AND TELL YOU EITHER YES OR NO, DON'T. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF DRIVER'S LICENSES THAT ARE ISSUED TO THESE CRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS THAT COME ACROSS. THEY ARE. IT IS. IT IS BASED ON THAT LICENSE. AND WHENEVER THEY TELL US WHAT WE'RE DOING, THEN THAT BECOMES UNDER THEIR AUTHORITY. AS FAR AS YOU'RE TELLING THEM, CAN WE JUST ISSUE A WARRANT TO SOMEONE THAT'S NOT HOW. ANYTIME THE ANYTIME NEW MEXICO ISSUES OR ANOTHER STATE GIVES US A WARRANT TO GO SERVE. IT'S THE SAME THING AS THE FEDERAL DEAL.

IF THEY COME IN AND TELL US TO GO DO THIS, THEN WARRANTS ARE ISSUED AND ACTED UPON. IT'S THIS IS EVERYDAY LAW ENFORCEMENT STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, JUDGE. IT'S JUST EVERYDAY LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DO THIS DAY IN, DAY OUT, HAVE BEEN DOING IT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT. WHETHER OR NOT THESE AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE THAT THAT IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO OPPOSE THE AGREEMENT, THAT'S FINE, JUDGE, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU YOU OPPOSE THIS AGREEMENT OR NOT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DONE THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT. IT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE TAXPAYERS OF LUBBOCK COUNTY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO STAND IN. WELL, LET ME FINISH. WE ARE TRYING TO STAY IN A NO NEW REVENUE RATE BUDGET AT THIS TIME. AND SO IF THERE'S NO FEDERAL MONEY, IF THERE'S NO COUNTY MONIES TO BE ISSUED, THIS MONEY COMES TO US. IT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR VEHICLE FOR IT AND FOR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. UNDERSTAND, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE DEPUTIES WE GOT TO SHARE, BUT WE GOT ZERO FUNDING TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A RADIO, WITH A CELL PHONE, WITH A COMPUTER. WE GOT ZERO FUNDING TO DO ANY OF THAT WITH. BUT WE GOT THE DEPUTY POSITION WE HAVE SCRAPED AND WE HAVE SCRAPPED. JUDGE, COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE, COMMISSIONER SHAW AND COMMISSIONER CAWLEY HAVE WORKED WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO EXTEND OUR DEADLINES SO THAT WE CAN BUY THIS EQUIPMENT WITH THE MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE AND AND DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO

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GET THIS FUNDED WITH SOME OF OUR SURPLUS MONEY FROM LAST YEAR. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE GUYS. I DON'T RUN THEIR NUMBERS, MY OFFICE, MY CONSTABLE FEES THAT I SERVED FOR THE YEAR WERE $82,000 ABOVE THE BUDGET. WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN THE BLACK. AND WHEN THIS MONEY COMES IN AND THIS MONEY AND THIS MONEY GOES INTO AN ACCOUNT THAT ONLY WE USE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS OFFICE IN THE BLACK AND CONTINUE TO MAKE IT NOT A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS OF LUBBOCK COUNTY. AND THAT IS MY JOB. I HAVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, WHEN THE MONEY COMES OR IF THE MONEY COMES, I SAY, WHEN THE MONEY COMES IN, THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL STACK IT UP AND WE'LL USE IT FOR THE THINGS INSTEAD OF COMING TO ASK YOU.

YES, WE ASK FOR A BIG TICKET ITEM. SURE, WE DID ASK FOR AN EMPLOYEE. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO.

THERE'S NO OTHER THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDING FOR THAT. BUT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CARS, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RADIOS, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO OUR JOB.

THAT STUFF WILL NOT HAVE TO BE ASKED FOR FOR A LONG TIME WITH THIS MONEY. AS IT ARRIVES, THERE ARE IT IS. WE CAN SIT HERE AND QUESTION IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WHATEVER LANGUAGE WE WANT TO USE, I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS HAPPENED. IT IS HAPPENING. THERE ARE RESULTS COMING IN. IT IS. AND WE'RE NOT SOME OUTLYING. WE'RE NOT ANOMALY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE MONEY WHEN ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE OR ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES ARE. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT SOME ANOMALY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ELSE. WE'RE GOING TO BE TREATED JUST THE SAME AS ANYONE ELSE. OKAY? THE MONEY WILL ARRIVE. WE WILL SET THE MONEY BACK AND DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH IT AND SPEND IT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS, WHICH WE'RE ALLOWED. OKAY. BUT FOR THE LAST MANY YEARS, I HAVE COME IN AT LEAST AT LEAST $10,000 IN THE BLACK EVERY YEAR WITH MY DEPARTMENT. AND I CONTINUE AND I AND I INTEND TO CONTINUE THAT. AND THIS WILL ALLOW IT TO GO ON FOR A LOT LONGER THAN IT ALREADY HAS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COURT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE DO NOT. WE'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. THIS IS THIS IS ONLY FOR THE FOR ITEM 14. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME. BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR ITEM 14 FOR APPROVAL. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CAWLEY. I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE MOA TASK FORCE MODEL BETWEEN ICE AND LUBBOCK COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. NAY. MOTION CARRIES 3 TO 2, WITH JUDGE PARRISH AND COMMISSIONER DALBY VOTING AGAINST. MAKE NO MISTAKE, CONSTABLE BARNES, I HAVE STOOD IN KATHY'S OFFICE NUMEROUS TIMES. GOING TO BAT FOR YOU GUYS. I KNOW YOU. I JUST WANT TO HAVE IT AS WELL.

HANG. HANG ON. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY THAT I HAVE NOT DONE WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, THAT. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT. OKAY. YOU. YOU HIT A NERVE WITH ME. PLEASE DON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. ITEM 15 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND OR TAKE

[15.00 27-0069 Discuss, consider and/or take action to authorize the County Judge to sign a Memorandum of Agreement 287(g) Task Force Model between the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a component of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Lubbock County Constable Precinct 2.]

ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT AT 287. TASK FORCE MODEL BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, OR ICE, A COMPONENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND LUBBOCK COUNTY CONSTABLE. PRECINCT TWO.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CAWLEY. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE MOA BETWEEN ICE AND LUBBOCK COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NAY. NAY. MOTION CARRIES 3 TO 2 WITH JUDGE

[16.00 27-0070 Discuss, consider and/or take action to authorize the County Judge to sign a Memorandum of Agreement 287(g) Task Force Model between the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a component of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Lubbock County Constable Precinct 4.]

PARRISH AND COMMISSIONER DALBY VOTING AGAINST ITEM 16. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT AT 287 G TASK FORCE MODEL BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, OR ICE, A COMPONENT OF THE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND LUBBOCK COUNTY CONSTABLE.

PRECINCT FOUR TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAW TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE MOA BETWEEN ICE AND CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL SAY THAT MY. MY MAIN OBJECTION TO THIS IS THAT IT DOES NOT PROTECT LUBBOCK COUNTY. WE WE WE'RE ENTERING AN AGREEMENT THAT HAS A LOT OF OPEN ENDED LOOSE STRINGS AVAILABLE TO IT WITH NO FUNDING MECHANISM. WE'RE

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PROMISED ALL OF THIS FUNDING THAT DOES NOT CONTAIN IN THIS AGREEMENT. IF I COULD SEE AN AGREEMENT, I'M A I'M A CONTRACTS ATTORNEY. THIS CONTRACT DOES NOT PROTECT LUBBOCK COUNTY. MY JOB AS COUNTY JUDGE IS TO PROTECT THIS COUNTY. THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT.

IT LEAVES SO MANY LOOSE ENDS AND LEAVES SO MANY LIABILITY. ISSUES OPEN THAT IT DOES NOT PROTECT US. IS THERE MONEY COMING? POSSIBLY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OF THAT. IN FACT, THIS AGREEMENT HAS TO GO FORWARD REGARDLESS OF WHETHER ANY MONEY COMES, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE POLITICAL WILL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THIS AGREEMENT TO ITS LETTER. NOW, CAN YOU DUMP THE AGREEMENT? SURE. WITH A WRITTEN YOU CAN DUMP OUT OF IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN DUMP OUT OF IT.

MY POINT IS THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT HERE THAT DOES NOT BENEFIT LUBBOCK COUNTY. THERE IS NO MECHANISM IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT BENEFITS LUBBOCK COUNTY. YOU'RE STILL DOING THE SAME WORK. I GET THAT YOU'RE STILL UNDER THE SAME LIABILITY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE. I GET THAT THIS ADDS TO THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT PROTECT LUBBOCK COUNTY. AND WITH THAT, I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY, NAY AS WELL. MOTION CARRIES 3 TO 2 WITH JUDGE PARRISH AND JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER DALBY VOTING AGAINST JUDGE. MAY I WRAP THIS UP, PLEASE, WITH WITH ONE LAST COMMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU THE LAST COMMENT I WILL DO. IN MY 35 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, I WILL DO ZERO. I WILL DO NOTHING TO JEOPARDIZE THIS COUNTY, MY JOB, MY REPUTATION, OR ANY ONE OF Y'ALL OR ANYBODY IN LUBBOCK COUNTY. I'LL DO MY JOB EXACTLY LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH THE PROMISE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE. AND I WILL DO NOTHING LESS THAN THAT. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WELCOME TO LUBBOCK COUNTY. I INTRODUCE MY PLEASE DO. TELL HIM IT'S NOT NORMALLY LIKE THIS ON YOUR FIRST DAY OF WORK. THIS CASE IS MY. MY NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE CAME FROM DAWSON COUNTY AND I'M EXTREMELY PROUD TO HAVE HIM. HE'S A NAME. WHAT CASE? LEDESMA CAYCE LEDESMA. YES, SIR. JUDGE PARRISH, COMMISSIONER. CORLEY, RICHARD.

DALBY. COMMISSIONER. RATTLER. KERRY. SHAW. KELLY. PINION. YES, MA'AM. WELCOME ABOARD. WE WE WISH YOU A FRUITFUL EMPLOYMENT HERE. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. WELCOME. GOOD TO

[17.00 27-0057 Discuss, consider and/or take action to approve the transfer of surplus property per Local Government Code §262.011(j).]

HAVE YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ITEM 17 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF SURPLUS PROPERTY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. 262.001 J. YES. WITH PURCHASING.

YEAH. THIS IS A TAHOE THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO TRANSFER TO SHALLOW WATER ISD POLICE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. 2016 TAHOE. IT'S GOT HIGH 65,000 65,000. WE'VE GOT SOME JUICE IN IT. A LITTLE BIT, YES. VERY LITTLE. THE LAST ONE DIDN'T HAVE ANY JUICE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING ANOTHER ONE. ALL RIGHT. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALBY TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF SURPLUS PROPERTY TO SHALLOW WATER PD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THOUGHT WE WERE TRANSFERRING ONE TO LYNN COUNTY AS WELL. OR IS THAT LATER? I HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT ONE. I HADN'T HEARD THAT. DID ANYONE REACH OUT TO OUR DEPARTMENT ON THAT? I'M NOT CERTAIN. I GOT A QUESTION OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT THAT. I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND. CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. I GOT A MOTION A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[18.00 27-0049 Discuss, consider and/or take action to approve the FY 2027 critical needs funding application for the New Deal Volunteer Fire Department.]

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM 18. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 27 CRITICAL NEEDS FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE NEW DEAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN. CLINTON PITCHFORD, THE LUBBOCK COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. NEW DEAL THIS YEAR IS REQUESTING FUNDING FOR COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, PRIMARILY, AND I BELIEVE, SOME ADDITIONAL HOSE AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY'RE NEEDING THIS YEAR. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 27 CRITICAL NEEDS FUNDING FOR NEW DEAL. VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[19.00 27-0058 Discuss, consider and/or take action to approve the FY 2027 critical needs funding application for the Woodrow Volunteer Fire Department.]

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 19. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE FISCAL YEAR

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27 CRITICAL NEEDS FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE WOODROW VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT. WOODROW, THIS YEAR'S REQUESTING FUNDING PRIMARILY FOR RESCUE EQUIPMENT, HAND TOOLS, SPREADERS, THINGS THAT WILL HELP THEM WITH RESCUE EFFORTS. AS THEY RESPOND TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALBY. SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 27 CRITICAL NEEDS FUNDING APPLICATION FOR WOODROW VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

[20.00 27-0071 Discuss, consider and/or take action to approve the FY 2027 critical needs funding application for the Wolfforth Fire Department.]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 20. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE FISCAL YEAR 27 CRITICAL NEEDS FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE WOLF, EARTH AND THEIR REQUEST COMING IN PRIMARILY SUPPORT FOR THEIR SCBAS OR THEIR AIR PACKS AND SOME ADDITIONAL FIRE HOSE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALBY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RECHLER TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 27 CRITICAL NEEDS FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE WOLF EARTH FIRE DEPARTMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

[21.00 27-0064 Discuss, consider and/or take action to approve and execute, for filing purposes, the plat regarding Davis Park Phase 4 Lots 116-137 in Precinct 1.]

GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ITEM 21 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE AND EXECUTE FOR FILING PURPOSES. THE PLAT REGARDING DAVIS PARK PHASE FOUR, LOTS 116 TO 137 IN PRECINCT ONE. ROSE. THIS PLAT HAS MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. WATERPROOF MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALBY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAW TO APPROVE FOR FILING PURPOSES THE PLAT REGARDING DAVIS PARK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 22 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE

[22.00 27-0067 Discuss, consider and/or take action to adopt a Personnel Action Process.]

ACTION TO ADOPT A PERSONNEL ACTION PROCESS. AT THIS TIME, I MOVE TO TABLE ITEM 22 TO NOVEMBER. I'M NOT TABLE PARDON ME. WRONG WRONG CHOICE OF LANGUAGE I MOVED TO. TO NOT CONSIDER THIS ACTION ITEM UNTIL NOVEMBER 23RD OF 2026. SECOND, A MOTION BY JUDGE PARRISH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALBY. 2022 OR 22 AND 23. WE'LL DO 22, AND THEN WE'LL DO 23. TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM TO NOVEMBER THE 23RD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 23.

[23.00 27-0001 Discuss, consider and/or take action to amend the Lubbock County Employee Handbook by adding Section 2.18, ‘Personnel Action Notifications-Elected Officials’ effective immediately.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND OR TAKE ACTION TO AMEND THE LUBBOCK COUNTY EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK BY ADDING SECTION 2.18 PERSONNEL ACTION NOTIFICATION. ELECTED OFFICIALS. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, I MOVE AT THIS TIME TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 23RD. SECOND MOTION BY JUDGE PARRISH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATCLIFFE TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF OF ITEM 23 UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 23RD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 24 REPORT

[24.00 27-0063 Report on the status of County Road Projects, Department Staffing, Training, and Safety, unpaved and paved road maintenance, signs, parks, and fleet management report.]

ON THE STATUS OF COUNTY ROAD PROJECTS. DEPARTMENT STAFFING, TRAINING AND SAFETY. UNPAVED AND PAVED ROAD MAINTENANCE SIGNS. PARKS AND FLEET MANAGEMENT REPORT ROADS STARTING WITH DEPARTMENT STAFFING AND TRAINING. WE HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND OUR FLOODPLAIN AND RIGHT AWAY ADMINISTRATOR AND ALSO AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR TO POSITION ON PAVED ROADS. WE HAVE 23 OPEN WORK ORDERS FOR PAVED ROADS. WE HAVE 37 OPEN WORK ORDERS FOR PARKS. THEY HAVE 11 OPEN WORK ORDERS OR NO FOR SIGNS. EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE 11 WORK ORDERS FOR PARKS. WE HAVE SIX. WE HAVE ROUTINE COST AND FLEET MAINTENANCE AND APPROXIMATELY 77 OPEN WORK ORDERS. FOR MR. THE THE CALLS ARE COMING IN.

EVERYBODY'S LIKE IT'S DRAW ENOUGH TO BLADE. NOW YOU CAN FIX THESE RUTS. YEAH, WE'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE DAYS AND THEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME AGAIN ISN'T IT. PERCENTAGES WENT DOWN SO I'M HOPING IT HOLDS OUT AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MOORE. ITEM 25

[25.00 27-0029 A quorum of the Commissioners Court may attend the following events: The Lubbock County Expo Center Local Government Corporation Board of Directors meeting Wednesday, November 11, 2026, at 12:00pm at 1500 Broadway, 5th Floor (LEDA Conference Room) Lubbock, Texas.]

IS A NOTICE THAT A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ATTEND THE FOLLOWING EVENT.

LUBBOCK COUNTY EXPO CENTER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL MEET WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 11TH AT 2 P.M. 1500 BROADWAY, FIFTH FLOOR. THE LEADING LITA CONFERENCE ROOM HERE IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS. ALSO, JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER THAT THE LUBBOCK COUNTY COURT OF LUBBOCK COUNTY COURTHOUSE OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 11TH. IN HONOR OF OUR VETERANS FOR VETERANS DAY. JUST AS A NOTE FOR THAT. ALSO, IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO COME BY THE COURTHOUSE SOMETIME WHEN IT'S DARK OUT, WE'VE GOT THE

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COURTHOUSE IS LIT UP IN GREEN. THAT'S NOT IN HONOR OF OUR OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR. NO, IT'S IT'S IT'S OPERATION GREEN LIGHT, WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS INITIATED BY NACO, OUR NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, TO REMIND VETERANS THAT WE'RE THINKING OF THEM, TO REMIND THEM THAT THE COUNTY SUPPORTS VETERANS, THAT OUR SERVICES. AND SO WE'RE NOT ONLY ENCOURAGING OUR COUNTY, OUR COUNTY OFFICES TO BE LIT UP IN GREEN, AS WE HAVE ON THE COURTHOUSE THROUGH THROUGHOUT UNTIL WEDNESDAY, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGING CITIZENS AS WELL.

PUT IT, PUT A GREEN LIGHT UP ON YOUR ON YOUR HOME TO REMIND YOU AND YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE SUPPORT OUR VETERANS IN LUBBOCK COUNTY DOES SUPPORT VETERANS. SO HAPPY VETERANS DAY TO ALL THOSE, TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED US IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SHAW.

MR. DALBY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR YOUR SERVICES TO TO LUBBOCK AND TO YOUR FAMILIES AND TO THE UNITED STATES. MAY GOD BLESS US AND MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA. AND NOW, AS AUTHORIZED

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

LUBBOCK COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT IS NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU. IT IS 1145 A RECONVENE LUBBOCK COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COURT GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN? 1146

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